tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post1420026631706922663..comments2024-02-02T03:32:36.204-07:00Comments on SQUIDALICIOUS: Leelo Gets His MMR BoosterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-75719021131128821462008-06-30T08:20:00.000-07:002008-06-30T08:20:00.000-07:00squid - it's lovely that you have provided such a ...squid - it's lovely that you have provided such a safe place for discussion. thank you.<BR/><BR/>mbmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506232089082821704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-8257850788248673962008-06-23T09:51:00.000-07:002008-06-23T09:51:00.000-07:00mb and all, I appreciate the tone of respectful di...mb and all, I appreciate the tone of respectful disagreement. I hope you will always feel you can express your views safely here.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your input.Shannon Des Roches Rosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18057806553670980068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-19077894278573716092008-06-23T09:14:00.000-07:002008-06-23T09:14:00.000-07:00I think the vaccine issue is difficult for many pa...I think the vaccine issue is difficult for many parents. My daughter had a neurological reaction to the MMR at 15 months. She would stare vacantly and then blink hard. Fortunately it went away a few days later. It was documented in her medical records and she will never get that again.<BR/><BR/>It was terrifying to think that we had damaged our baby by giving her the vaccine. I will not risk my other kids either. I have a five-year old and a baby who will not get the MMR. <BR/><BR/>The bottom line is that you have to do your own research and go with what makes you comfortable. I also pick and choose, which is reasonable for an informed, educated parent.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915912351833244193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-62586798045041414692008-06-22T13:38:00.000-07:002008-06-22T13:38:00.000-07:00My two cents:The "older paternal age" contributing...My two cents:<BR/><BR/>The "older paternal age" contributing to autism study is not universally accepted. Also, just a data point, my husband's age was below that study's "older" threshold when our daughter was conceived.<BR/><BR/>I am not rabid about the subjects of vaccines and autism, might/might not be true... but I am tired of the general press pretty much ignoring studies that indicate a link, while playing up studies that indicate no link. That bias alarms me. I do know that CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding, regarding the famous study based on their vaccine data base has been touted as the biggest and most thorough of the "vaccines don't cause autism" side, has just recently formally apologized to congress for how that study was done, and stated that no conclusions could be reached using their data. here's one link discussing that, although i had to type it in rather than copy it for easy use: www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/cdc-vaccine-study-design_b_108398.html<BR/><BR/>Who really knows. if vaccines are the culprit, could be thimerasol had an effect, could be the other basic vaccine ingredients that our kids are now more exposed to as the recommended # of vaccinations increases. The MMR had no thimerasol, the concern was the measles part - a group of autistic kids who had lower GI scopes were found to have that exact strain of measles present in their colon, when it shouldn't exist outside the vaccine labs. My daughter tested positive for this presence in her bloodwork, though we never did a lower GI scope on her.<BR/><BR/>As a mom with a child on the spectrum, i feel no social obligation to vaccinate anymore. i will probably pick and choose vaccinations and schedule them carefully, as per Squid's excellent advice. But I do remember, before our daughter was born, there was absolutely no sign of ASD on either side of our families. so we could not have used that as a warning. <BR/><BR/>just some thoughts.<BR/><BR/>mbmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506232089082821704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-83029262306409323052008-06-22T05:37:00.000-07:002008-06-22T05:37:00.000-07:0030 isn't old though for a father. And sperm are m...30 isn't old though for a father. And sperm are made fresh unlike eggs.<BR/><BR/>I have two kids on the spectrum both not vaccinated. As they are getting older now, I am looking at how we will vaccinate for all the diseases they didn't bother to catch and gain immunity.Florahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847049535625158119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-33041609761259588362008-06-21T18:31:00.000-07:002008-06-21T18:31:00.000-07:00Er, actually sperm *are* made fresh. That's why g...Er, actually sperm *are* made fresh. That's why guys don't go through menopause. Women are born with a limited supply of ova, and when they're gone they're gone, but men... they just keep creating those little suckers. <BR/>That's not to take away from the aging father theory - I think it's very interesting to look at all the statistics and the various factors that may influence such a complex disease as autism. But, as my old statistics professor loved to remind us, correlation does not imply causation. <BR/>Re: the link - I think that one reason why the aging dad theory may not get as much press is the same reason that age does not get much press as a risk factor for heart disease, hypertension, diabetes, etc. - it's an unmodifiable risk factor. A person can (theoretically) change what they eat, where they live, whether they expose their child to various substances, etc. but they can't change certain things. They can't change their genes, they can't change their ethnic background, and they can't change their age. If someone found out tomorrow that children of blondes were at higher risk of autism, it would be interesting to hear, but I doubt it would be as widely heralded as if someone were to find that there was a higher risk of autism in children who ate broccoli before their third birthday. <BR/>(Sorry, that was a bit of a tangent, but I find this stuff really interesting.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01207678339857611774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-19420268869636861472008-06-21T11:26:00.000-07:002008-06-21T11:26:00.000-07:00Hmmm. Well, Seymour was thirty when Leelo was conc...Hmmm. Well, Seymour was thirty when Leelo was conceived.Shannon Des Roches Rosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18057806553670980068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5563550.post-56550368351953968402008-06-21T09:27:00.000-07:002008-06-21T09:27:00.000-07:00One known risk factor for autism and many other di...One known risk factor for autism and many other disorders is older paternal age. Sperm cells collect mutations that lead to schizophrenia, autism, type 1 diabetes etc as a man ages and is exposed to toxins. Sperm are not made fresh they come from other cells through division. It is during these divisions that DNA errors take place. http://autism-prevention.blogspot.com/2008/06/autism-speaks-rakes-in-money-but-never.htmlconcerned hearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14987948292416367555noreply@blogger.com